tv U.S. Senate CSPAN July 10, 2009 5:00pm-7:00pm EDT
agree 011, 2009 about the authorities in honduras restricting personal liberty and allowing detention 24 hours freedom association, right of assembly as well as freedom of movement to enter and leave and remain on the territory of honduras, would any -- is that still in affect? or is -- does that have any concern like it does with a lot of members in a national emergency that was created and continuing? >> missiles and? >> my understanding is that the suspension of liberties during certain hours of the day which was put forward has been reduced over the past couple of days. i didn't check yesterday so i am not sure. we have been concerned about it, yes. and one of the big things we've been concerned about and that has reflected things a lot has been the restriction of the media. pretty much of the opposition media were taken off the air,
and off the air and they were not showing up in print so you ended up with a real kind of one-sided view of what was going on. >> act and, congressman, that isn't a correct statement. it have happened very briefly. all the media is operating as we speak. there are protests on both sides. democracy is flourishing. i do agree the curfews are the only thing in place that our nighttime curfews, but as to any civil liberties, as far as i know from the distance, the answer is democracy and civil liberties are still flourishing. >> let me get my other question quickly. the changing constitutions in power in western hemisphere -- and i know there are other countries, colombia, venezuela, bolivia, ecuador, honduras -- is that fairly common? it seems like except for columbia we hear it from people loosely aligned with venezuela. is the eight general correct
statement? do you want to extend the terms of office my public referendum -- >> mr. green, as i testified in my testimony that pattern of certain elected leaders coming in with an erection as chavez did ten years ago as sali and ecuador and morales and bolivia -- >> frankly i think -- president uribe did the same thing extended the term. >> he has not done that, he has presented that, he hasn't decided whether he is going to run. the constitution was changed in colombia, that's correct, to allow a second term. i personally -- in my personal opinion i'm not a colombian so i didn't vote on that one, i don't think that's good. >> i don't think it is good for columbia any more than i think it is good for honduras or has been good for venezuela or bolivia or ecuador of the others
but that is just my personal opinion and based on 40 some years working in latin america where some countries for example like mexico have made it part of the constitution there is no free election because they know that unfortunately -- i don't know for some reason, cultural reasons for political once they get into power they don't want to give it up. >> i'm going to let that be the charnel board. mr. smith? >> thank you. if the crisis in honduras was heating up i was actually the rios with the last dictator of europe and he is the man who was elected, dissolved the parliament, rewrote the constitution to allow him to be president for life and i remember thinking of again, not again and we have it happening again or it almost happened in honduras. my question is sali zelaya has been accused of several very serious crimes including treason, abuse of authority and a usurpation of power. the supreme court has voted
unanimously as everyone has said here. all of the democratically elected institutions of the government are trying to uphold law. as the doctor grapples with this issue of what to do it seems to me one of the top questions has to be should zelaya be prosecuted? i don't know how those kind of charges just get swept under the table. people in honduras, the united states and every other country wants to rule of law to be upheld. serious charges have been leveled. i believe he should be prosecuted. i would like to know, starting with you, justice pérez-cadalso, what do you think? >> thank you, congressman. i think before the question had been posed about the return of mr. zelaya to the country that
of course will be put forth in the mediation table, but the problem will be, too, i am almost sure that is going to be put forward, and for him to return as president. the thing that would worry anyone that respects the law would be that if he returns, if things follow the legal trend he will be arrested when he gets to hondurans soil. he has to be arrested if we respect the rule of law. there is a warrant for his arrest, so that poses a problem in the mediation. and the other problem would be his governing ability. how would he be able to govern in a country that has a majority of the institution malady that is opposing at?
all of this panel has talked about not only the judiciary, congress, the human rights commission, the attorney general, the catholic church -- everybody has expressed that he was -- was of contempt of all, that he was beside bill -- the law and he should be prosecuted especially because he was rebellious with all the orders that were issued by a other instances of the judiciary power. >> thank you. i think we will have to let that one be the last one. mr. payne. >> i hear business people -- i understand them become minimum wage was raised, indigenous people supported, the afro on dress -- can anybody speak about the eckert? i haven't heard that mentioned. they were in support of this coup, the person that raised the
minimum wage. people came to new york to swear in an organization called the central american black organization made up of people of african descent throughout central america to show the respect of that organization. does anybody have any of the indigenous or the minority people's position? quickly. >> four of five political parties, including parties representing many of the unions, many of the poor people simply upheld the law congressmen, and found that he violated all. but if i may say i would hope he would not support a cutoff of aid, which will hurt the worst people in honduras, and to have the united states government cut off where the people who will suffer, the people least able to cope with the cut off of the aid i hope both democrats and republicans would support a cut off at this very important time. >> one thing we do have to
discourage military coup and much of the aid goes around the government, and so i certainly couldn't see us continuing giving support to someone who has taken of office body army. and i just want to conclude, because my time is about up, though i am just certainly -- i am outraged by the representation of the new government, which our foreign minister who -- >> he's been forced out, congressman. >> okay, but it must have some kind of reflection of the group. because when he says three times about this new little black man who's the president of the united states and then talked about as mr. delahunt negotiated with queers' and prostitutes, leftists, blacks and whites, that is my job, however, i like this little black sugar plantation worker who is president of the united states. i don't want to sound like i am
prejudiced, but a statement like that certainly offends me. >> congressmen, he's not a reflection of everybody. he was sacked. he's a far out extremist bigot and there's nobody in the honduran government who didn't support him being sacked. >> who appointed him? the former guys that took out the president must have put him in. >> he got sacked. >> well, he got in. [applause] >> may i add that hugo chavez used the same term to describe president obama? >> well, i'm talking about, you know, this country. i should have raised it in. i didn't hear it from chavez. >> it's reprehensible no matter who says it whether it is left or right -- in the case of ponder is at least five minister was -- >> he isn't going to have any time so i am going to yield. >> thank you mr. rohrabacher. >> i think that was a good point
ambassador reich was going to make. when hugo chavez says something that you condemn him as much as you are condemning somebody that this group sacked because they didn't want to have anything to do with that type of language. mr. reich or ambassador reich i should say didn't mr. chavez himself to lead a coup de taha in 1992? >> yes, sir. that was a coup de tall. >> was his plan to put in power himself who was a military man or was his idea to put another democratically elected person in to power? >> it was to put the military in power to replace an elected president who hadn't broken the law -- >> and so mr. chavez, the greatest ally of this would be cut deal and honduras, himself, conducted a military coup against the democratically elected government? >> there's no question there's a
double standard. i -- i am glad, for example, referred to the double standard as being carried out the last several years of overlooking the violations of civil rights by governments of the left. the very weekend that we were discussing here in this city what to do with -- with the government of honduras which has been described here as having trampled some civil rights -- hugo chavez plame he was closing down 200 radio stations and venezuela. i didn't even see that reported. >> with this going on in honduras, that is exactly what we could have expected from this would be who is also implicated in the drug trade in corruption that's what we could expect from him. that's why his people who understood him and his fellow political people in the spectrum and honduras think that it was the right thing to remove him from power because he had
violated the constitution. >> the gentleman's time is expired dr. arnson, just 30 seconds. >> with reference to the two attended by president shot eyes, he was jailed for that attempt and subsequently, you know, was elected. this is not a defense of the venezuelan government. but i think all of the people that have so passionately spoken on behalf of the rule of law have not mention the fundamental rule of to process. as a key aspect of the world of law, and i think if we can agree that it is all right to arrest someone in the middle of the night in his pajamas and put him on a plan outside that there would have been -- that there would have been legal remedies for the resolution. >> the next step -- >> i want to give -- ms. lee. >> let me see it myself with the remarks of congressman payne, and now i am learning also, well, it is clear that the
number in business community supported the coup, learning that the president zelaya had, you know, raised the minimum wage because it's been said how the business community supported the coup and the church supported the coup and now i'm learning that the church didn't of course like his veto in the legislation to ban the morning after pill. and so the more and more you dig into this you could understand why some of what has been said is the case. wanted to ask about the inter-american commission report on human rights on july 3rd. they issued actually a statement expressing concern over the human rights violations. and said, the commission said fundamental rights have been restricted such as personal liberty and allowing the detention for more than 24 hours, freedom of association, the right of assembly as well as freedom of movement to leave and entered in remaining into the territory of ponder is.
given the human rights abuses coming from this puppet or the defacto government, what is an appropriate response to that from those who support this whatever it is that has been placed into power? mr. reich, maybe you could answer that for me. >> i am not understand why -- not sure i understand the question. >> the human rights report i just read in terms of human rights being restricted as a result of the coup what is your position on how we address that? >> i will now justified restriction of civil rights by any government, period. however, we need to also look at what led to the events of june 28 and honduras. there had been violations of the hondurans people civil rights by this zelaya government. this didn't just happen. the honduran supreme court didn't just wake up friday morning and decide why don't we write an opinion unanimously to
get rid of the president. it was a succession of violations of their own hall. >> let me say we've had presidents many of us believe have violated our own fault in the constitution and none of us suggested any coup d'etat. we always suggested moving forward with a space process to make sure democracy prevailed. >> because our system works and institutions work and i think what we are failing to see is the institutions of honduras and actually worked and we are -- i think this is a dialogue of death frankly on the two. you've heard members of the former members of the honduras supreme court tell you that by their all the actions of the president constituted as self activating rule by which he ceased to be the president. all i am not a lawyer as i said in my testimony i am not qualified to judge, but i think that dr. pérez-cadalso certainly is, and he is saying to us as
the -- another former president of supreme court why quote in my testimony who said that action was legal, mrs. lee, congresswoman lee. i don't think the congress of the united states should sit in judgment of the supreme court of another country. >> let me tell you cuba has its constitution and those were sitting there talking out of both sides of their mouth. >> there were also the nuremberg laws in germany if you want to defend those. >> let me move we have a member of the committee that is with us, although not a member of the subcommittee and she has been very patient. i would like to give her the opportunity to ask a question. that is chairwoman sheila jackson lee. >> i will be brief. this is a crucial hearing and i probably dig to differ with my friend mr. reich. i think it is important for constitutional government to come in on the process of government. i would offer this: i think it is good news the president of costa rica and secretary clinton are in the engagement process mr. davis, and i thank you for
that. here is my offer and suggestion. one, i would like to ask ms. olsen quickly do you think the pause we have on aid is positive. secondarily i would like to hear from anyone who wants to answer whether or not there would be an acceptance of the return of this president to finish out his state constitutional term because that is the corrupt crunch what i believe is the fault. this was a coup, this was disruption of government. this was using tools i don't believe are written in the honduran constitution. is a coup written in the constitution? if you can point to me i would say this should end. i went on this note and ask ms. olson about the cause of aids. it isn't a complete elimination and anyone else that wants to answer with a would accept the negotiations of secretary clinton and the president of costa rica. and i thank you very much mr. chairman. i would yield back and let me say again the president of costa rica. thank you. >> just to respond to the
question, it -- i don't have the number in front of me but it's not a huge percentage because so much of u.s. aid now doesn't go directly to the government it goes through non-governmental organizations. dewitt think it's appropriate to suspend aid after the coup's? yes i do because there have to be some kind of mechanisms that countries can use to show their disagreement and i sense with something that's happened. so yes, i do think it is appropriate and no, we haven't cut off all aid to honduras. -- which isn't an indictment what we are trying to do. anyone want to answer about the negotiations? >> congressman lee, first always nice to see you and i do want to correct the record by congresswoman lee. the business community did not support violating any constitutional or legal procedures regarding shipping mr. zelaya out of the country. i said when you were not here, congresswoman lee, with the wisdom of hindsight it could
have been done differently. but understanding the context of the fear at the time that he needed to be arrested and needed to be prosecuted and that is the rule of law and i will let the parties themselves decide if and when he returns howell will fall will be upheld and still as president obama always tells us and secretary clinton always tells us what's come together in dialogue and find a solution where there is no blood shed where we can restore the rule of law. that is basic to clinton has done such a good job in letting the president tried to immediate. >> i will just say i repeat the to isn't in the constitution. we all adhere to rule of law and i do believe there should be returned. i yield to the chairman. >> thank you. let me, unless there is anyone who would like to add anything, other panelists who would like to add anything mr. mack and i agreed to stay. but i think we have covered it
pretty thoroughly and we have had all different points of view, both from my colleagues here and also from the panelists. selwa unless anyone has anything they must say i want to thank each and every one of you for very, very important testimony, from what i consider this very, very important hearing. this subcommittee will continue to monitor the defense and honduras and we will continue to act accordingly. i thank the panels and i thank my colleagues and the subcommittee hearing is now closed. >> thank you. [inaudible conversations]
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a day after signing a nuclear arms agreement with russia, president obama spoke to graduates at the new economic school in moscow about u.s.-russian relations. the global economy, and democracy. students from the schools specialize and economics and finance. this is about 30 minutes. [applause] [applause] >> mr. president, i present to you the graduating class of the new economic school, 200 million. [speaking in russian] [applause] >> thank you. thank you very much.
thank you so much. congratulations, and to the entire class of 2009, congratulations i don't know if anybody else will meet their future wife or husband and a class like i did, but i am sure you are all going to have wonderful careers. i want to acknowledge a few people who are here. we have president mikhail garbage of ways here today, and i want everybody to give him a big round of applause. [applause] i want to thank sergei, the director of the new economics will. [applause] the chairman of the board. [applause]
and arcadi, the nes board member, president of the alumni association and is doing an excellent job for president medvedev, because he was at our meeting yesterday. [applause] good morning. it is a great honor for me to join you at the new economic school. michelle and all i are so pleased to be in moscow, and as somebody who was born in hawaii, i am glad to be here in july instead of january. [applause] i know that nes is a young school, but i speak to you today with deep respect for russia's timeless heritage. russian writers have helped us
understand the complexities of human experience and recognize eternal truths. russia's painters, composers and dancers have introduced us to new forms of beauty. russia's scientists have to word disease, sought new frontiers of progress, and helped us go to space. these are contributions not contained by russia's borders as fast as the was borders are. indeed, russia's heritage has touched every corner of the world and speaks to the humanity that we share. that includes my own country, which has been blessed with russian immigrants for decades. we have been enriched by russian culture and enhanced by russian cooperation. and as a resident of washington, d.c., i continue to benefit from the contributions of russians, specifically from alexander.
[applause] we are very pleased to have him in washington, d.c.. here at nes, you have inherited this great cultural legacy. but your focus on economics is no less fundamental to the future of humanity. as pushkin said, inspiration is needed in geometry just as poetry. and today, i want particularly to speak to those of you preparing to graduate. you are pleased to be leaders and academia and industry and finance and government. but before you move forward, it's worth reflecting on what has already taken place during your lives. like president medvedev and myself, you are not old enough to have witnessed the darkest hours of the cold war.
when hydrogen bombs were tested in the atmosphere and children drilled in fallout shelters and we reached the quote brink of nuclear catastrophe. but you are the last generation born when the world was divided. at that time, the american and soviet armies were still masked in europe, trained and ready to fight. the ideological trenches of the last century were roughly in place. competition in everything from astrophysics to athletics was treated as a zero sum game. if one person one, then the other person had to lose. and then within a few short years, the world as it was ceased to be. now make no mistake, this change didn't come from any one nation. the cold war reached a conclusion because of the
actions of many nations over many years and because the people of russia and eastern europe stood up and decided that its end would be peaceful. with the end of the cold war, there were extraordinary expectations for peace and prosperity. for new arrangements among the nations and new opportunities for individuals. like all periods of great change, it was a time of ambitious plans and endless possibilities. but of course, things don't always work out as planned. backend 93 shortly after the school opened, one nes student summed up the difficulty of change when he told a reporter, and i quote him, the real world is not so rational announce on paper. the real world isn't so irrational as on paper. over to a tumultuous decades
that truth has been borne out and around the world. great wealth has been created but it isn't eliminated the last pockets of crushing poverty. poverty exists here. it exists in the united states. and exists all around the world. more people have gone to the ballot box, but to many governments still fail to protect the rights of their people. ideological struggles have diminished, but they have been replaced by conflicts over tried and ethnicity and religion. a human being with a computer could hold the same amount of information stored in the russian state library, but that technology can also be used to do great harm. in a new rush of the disappearance of old economic restrictions after the end of the soviet union brought both opportunity and hardship.
if you prospered but many more did not. there were tough times. but the russian people showed strength and made sacrifices, you achieved hard earned progress through a growing economy and greater confidence and despite painful times, many in eastern europe and russia are much better off today than 20 years ago. we see that progress here at nes. a school founded with western support that is now testing a regression. a place of learning and inquiry where the test of an idea isn't whether it is russian or american or european, but whether it works. above all, we see that progress in all of you. young people with a young sentry to shape as you see fit. you're a lifetime coincides with this era of transition. but think about the fundamental
questions asked win this school was founded. what kind of future is rush of going to have? what kind of future of russia and america going to have now? what world order will replace the cold war? those questions still don't have clear answers and so now they must be answered by, by your generation in russia, and america, and a around the world. ..
>> as president john kennedy said, no nation in history of battle ever suffered more than the soviet union in the second world war. so as we honor the past, we also recognize that future benefit that will come from a strong and vibrant russia. think of the issues that will define your lives. security from nuclear weapons and extremism, access to markets and opportunity, health and the environment, an international system that protects sovereignty
and human rights, while promoting stability and prosperity. these challenges demand global partnership, and that partnership will be stronger if russia occupies its frightful place as a great power. yet unfortunately, there is sometimes a sense that old assumptions must prevail, old ways of thinking. a conception of power that is rooted in the past rather than in the future. there is the 20th century view that the united states and russia are destined to be antagonists, and that a strong russia or a strong america can only assert themselves in opposition to one another. and there is a 19th century view that we are destined to vie for spheres of influence, and that great powers must forge impeding blocks to balance one another. these assumptions are wrong. in 2009, a great power does not show strength by dominating or
demonizing other countries. the days when empires could treat sovereign state as pieces on a chessboard are over. as i said in cairo, given our independence, any world order that -- given our inner dependence, any world order that try to elevate one nation or one group of people over another will inevitably fail. the pursuit of power is no longer a zero-sum game. progress must be shared. that's why i have called for a reset in relations between the united states and russia. this must be more than a fresh start between the kremlin and the white house, though that is important and i've had excellent discussions with both the president and/or prime minister. it must be sustained effort among the american and russian people to identify mutual
interests, and expand dialogue and cooperation that can pave the way to progress. this will not be easy. it's difficult to forge a lasting partnership between former adversaries. it's hard to change habits that have been ingrained in our government and our bureaucracies for decades. but i believe that on the fundamental issues that will shape this century, americans and russians share common interests that form a basis for cooperation. it is not for me to divide russia's national interests, but i can tell you about america's national interests, and i believe that you will see that we share common ground. first, american has an interest in reversing the spread of nuclear weapons and preventing their use. in the last entry, generations of americans and russians inherited the power to destroy nations, and the understanding that using that power would bring about our own destruction.
in 2009, our inheritance is different. you and i don't have to ask whether american and russian leaders will respect a balance of terror. we understand the horrific consequences of any war between our two countries. but we do have to ask this question. we have to ask whether extremist who have killed innocent civilians in new york and in moscow will show that same restraint. we have to ask whether 10 or 20 or 50 nuclear armed nations will protect their arsenals and refrain from using them. this is the core of the nuclear challenge in the 21st century. the notion that prestige comes from holding these weapons, or that we can protect ourselves by picking and choosing which nations can have these weapons, is an illusion. in a short period since the end of the cold war, we've already
seen india, pakistan, and north korea conduct nuclear test. without a fundamental change, do any of us truly believe that the next two decades will not bring about the further spread of these nuclear weapons? that's why america is committed to stopping nuclear proliferation, and ultimately seeking a world without nuclear weapons. that is consistent with our commitment under the nuclear nonproliferation treaty. that is our responsibility as the world to leading nuclear powers. and while i know this goal will not be met soon, pursuing it provides the legal and moral foundation to prevent the proliferation and eventual use of nuclear weapons. we're already taking important steps to build a foundation. yesterday, president medvedev and i make progress on negotiating a new treaty that will substantially reduce our warheads and delivery systems.
we renewed our commitment to clean, safe and peaceful nuclear energy, which must be a right for all nations that live up to their responsibilities under the npt. and we agreed to increase corporation on nuclear security, which is essential to achieving the goal of securing all vulnerable nuclear material within four years. as we keep our own commitments, we must hold other nations accountable for there. whether america or russia, neither of us would benefit from a nuclear arms race in east asia or the middle east. that's why we should be united in opposing north korea's efforts to become a nuclear power, and opposing iran's effort to acquire a nuclear weapon. and i'm pleased that president medvedev and i agreed upon a joint threat assessment of the ballistic challenges, a list of missiles challenges of the 21st century, including from iran and north korea. this is not about singling out
individual nations. it's about the responsibilities of all nations. if we fail to stand together, then the npt and the security council will lose credibility, and international law will give way to the law of the jungle. and that benefits no one. as i said in prague, rules must be binding, violations must be punished, and words must mean something. the successful enforcement of these rules will remove causes of disagreements. i don't russia opposes the plan configuration for missile defense in europe. and my administration is reviewing these plans to enhance the security of america, europe and the world. and i've made it clear that this system is directed at preventing a potential attack from iran. it has nothing to do with russia. in fact, i want to work together with russia on a missile defense architecture that makes us all safer. but if the threat from iran's
nuclear and ballistic missile program is eliminated, the driving force for missile defense in europe will be eliminated, and that is in our mutual interests. now, in addition to securing the world's most dangerous weapons, a second area where america has a critical national interest is in isolating and defeating violent extremists are for years, al qaeda and its affiliates have filed a great religion of peace and justice. and ruthlessly murdered men, women and children of all nationalities and faiths. in d., above all they have murdered muslims. and these extremists have killed in amman and bali, islamabad and kabul, and they have the blood of americans and russians on their hands. they are plotting to kill more of our people, and they benefit from safe havens that allow them to train and operate. particularly along the border of pakistan and afghanistan. and that's why america has a clear goal. to disrupt, dismantle and defeat
al qaeda and its allies in afghanistan and pakistan. we seek no bases, nor do we want to control these nations. instead, we want to work with international partners, including russia, to help afghans and pakistanis advance their own security and prosperity. and that's what i'm pleased that russia has agreed to allow the united states to supply our coalition forces through your territory. neither america nor russia has an interest in an afghanistan or pakistan governed by the taliban. it's time to work together on behalf of a different future. a future in which we leave behind a great game the past and the conflict of the present, a future in which all of us contribute to the security of central asia. and beyond afghanistan, america is committed to promoting the opportunity that will isolate extremists. we are helping the iraqi people build a better future, and leaving iraq to the iraqi's. we are pursuing the goal of two states, israel and palestine,
living in peace and security. we are partnering with muslim communities around the world to advance education, health and economic development. in each of these endeavors, i believe that the russian people share our goals, and will benefit from success. and we need to partner together. now, in addition to the security concerns, the third area that i will discuss is america's interest in global prosperity. and since we have so many economists and future business men and women in the room, i know this is of great interest to you. we meet in the midst of the worst global recession and a generation. i believe that the free market is the greatest force for creating and distributing wealth that the world has ever known. but wherever the market is allowed to run rampant, through excessive risk-taking, a lack of regulation, or corruption, and all are endangered, whether we
live on the mississippi or on the volga. in america, we're now taking unprecedented steps to jumpstart our economy and reform our system of regulation. but just as no nation can walled itself off from the consequences of a global crisis, no one can serve as the sole engine of global growth. you see, during your lives, something fundamental has changed. and brought this crisis has shown us the risks that come with change, that risk is overwhelmed by opportunity. think of what's possible today that was unthinkable two decades ago. a young woman with an internet connection in bangalore, india can compete with anybody anywhere in the world. and onto the newer with a start companies in beijing can take his business global.
and nes professor in moscow can collaborate with colleagues at harvard or stanford. that's good for all of us because when prosperity is created in india, that's a new market for our goods. when new ideas take hold in china, that pushes our businesses to innovate. when new connections are forged among people, all of us are enriched. there is extraordinary potential for increased call operation between americans and russians. we can pursue trade that is free and fair and integrated with the wider world. we can boost investment that creates jobs in both our countries. we can forge partnerships on energy that topknot only traditional resources, like oil and gas, but new sources of energy that will drive growth and combat climate change. all of that, americans and russians can do together. now, government can promote this cooperation, but ultimately
individuals must advance this cooperation. because the greatest resource of any nation in the 21st century is you. its people. if young people especially. and a country which tabs that resource will be the country that will succeed. that success depends upon economies that function within the rule of law. as president medvedev has rightly said, a mature and effective legal system is a condition for sustained economic development. people everywhere should have the right to do business or get an education without paying a bribe. whether they are in america or russia or africa or latin america, that's not an american idea or a russian idea. that's a people and countries will succeed in the 21st century. and this brings me to the fourth issue that i will discuss. america's interest in democratic
governments that protect the rights of their people. by no means is america perfect. but it is our commitment to certain universal values which allows us to correct our imperfections, to improve constantly and to grow stronger over time. freedom of speech and assembly has allowed women and minoriti minorities, and workers to protest for full and equal rights at a time when they were denied. the rule of law and equal administration of justice has busted monopolies, shut down political machines that were corrupt, into the abuses of power. independent media have exposed corruption at all levels of business and government. competitive elections allow us to change course and hold our leaders accountable. if our democracy did not advance those rights, denied, as a
person of african ancestry, wouldn't be able to address you as an american citizen, much less as a president. because at the time of our founding, i had no rights. of people who look like me. but it is because of that process that i can now stand before you as president of the united states. so around the world, america supports these values because they are moral, but also they were. the arc of history shows that governments which serve their own people survive and thrive. government which serve only their own power do not. governments that represent the will of their people are far less likely to descend into failed state, to terrorize their citizens or to wage war on others. governments that promote the rule of law, subject their actions oversight and allow for independent institutions are more dependable trading
partners. and in our own history, democracies have been america's most enduring allies, including those we once waged war with in europe and asia your nations that today live with great security and prosperity. now let me be clear. america cannot and should not seek to impose any system of government on any other country, nor would we presume to choose which party or individual should run the country. and we haven't always done what we should have on that front. even as we meet here today, america supports now the restoration of the democratically elected president of honduras, even though he has strongly opposed american policies. we do so not because we agree with him. we do so because we respect the universal principle that people should choose their own leaders, whether they are leaders we agree with or not. and that leads me to one final area that i will discuss, which
is america's interest in an international system that advances cooperation while respecting the sovereignty of all nations. state sovereignty must be a cornerstone of international order. just as all states should have the right to choose their leaders, states must have the right to borders that are secure, and to their own foreign policies. that is true for russia, just as it is true for the united states. any system that sees those rights will lead to anarchy. that's why we must apply this principle to all nations. and that includes nations like georgia and ukraine. america will never impose a security arrangement on another country. for any country to become a member of an organization like nato, for example, a majority of its people must choose to. they must undertake reforms. they must be able to contribute to the alliance's mission. and let me be clear.
nato should be seeking collaboration with russia, not confrontation. and more broadly, we need to foster cooperation and respect among all nations and peoples. as president of the united states, i will work tirelessly to protect america's security and to advance our interests. but no one nation can meet the challenges of the 21st century on its own, nor dictate its terms to the world. that is something that america now understands, just as russia understands. that's why america seeks an international system that lets nations pursue their interests peacefully, especially when those interests the verge. a system where the universal right of human beings are respected, and violations of those rights are opposed. a system where we hold ourselves to the same standards that we apply to other nations, with clear rights and responsibilities for all.
there was a time when roosevelt, churchill, and stalin could shape the world in one meeting. those days are over. the world is more complex today. billions of people have found their voice, and seek their own measure of prosperity and self-determination in every corner of the planet. over the past two decades, we've witnessed markets grow, will spread, and technology used to build, not be strolling. untrimmenot destroyed. we've seen old hatreds bass, aleutians all the differences between people lived in fadeaway. we've seen the human destiny in the hands of more and more human beings who can shape their own destinies. now we must see that the period of transition which you have lived through ushers in a new era in which nations live in
peace, and people realize their aspirations for dignity, security and a better life for their children. that is america's interest, and i believe it is russia's interest as well. i know that this future can seem distant. change is hard. in the words of that nes student back in 1993, the real world is not so rational as on paper. but think of a change that has unfolded with the passing of time. 100 years ago, a czar ruled russia, and europe was a place of empire. when i was born, segregation was still the law of the land in parts of america, and my father's kenya was still a colony. when you were born, a school like this would have been impossible, and the internet was only known to a privileged few.
you get to decide what comes next. you get to choose where change will take us, because the future does not belong to those who gather armies on the field of battle or very missiles in the ground. the future belongs to young people with an education and the imagination to create. that is the source of power in this century. and given all that has happened in your two decades on earth, just imagine what you can create in the years to come. every country chart its own course. russia has cut its way through time like a mighty river through a canyon, leaving an indelible mark on human history as it goes. as you move this story forward, look to the future that can be built if we refuse to be burdened by the old obstacles and old suspicions. look to the future that can be built if we partner on behalf of
the aspirations we hold in common. together, we can build a world where people are protected, prosperity is enlarged, and our power truly serves progress. and it is all in your hands. good luck to all of you. thank you very much. [applause] >> thank you. [applause] >> the group campus progress held their annual conference this week in washington, d.c.. speakers at the event included house speaker nancy pelosi and former president bill clinton. next, the deputy director of the organization talks about the group and its goals. from today's washington journal, it's 20 minutes.
>> and now on your screen is erica williams. she is deputy director of a group called campus progress. ms. williams, what is campus progress? >> estate progress. our focus is on supporting run progressives across the country and advocating for progressive policy change, developing new young leaders and supporting them and making changes right now in their communities. >> how do you define a progressive? >> a progressive is someone, and this is, this very. there are many definitions and answers. most of the young people that i work with and myself included, believe that being a progressive develop our understanding that there's a certain common good that we are all looking working towards. we believe in putting people overprivileged. we believe in the concept that all people are created equal but not just undergone. also under the law. that's kind of what we work toward, this idea of the common good. >> host: if he would, translate that into an issue.
>> guest: well, a couple issues right now that are pretty hot and heavy. i would say health care is one. we believe that it's a basic human right, it's a fundamental human right, especially for americans, such a wealthy country. to have access to affordable health care. that is equitable across all incomes, statuses, ethnic groups. and we believe that government should have a role in making sure that happens. >> host: do you believe that if it requires more taxation, that's their? >> guest: absolutely. and not only do i believe that, then people i work with, but there is bowling that said young people, young people aged 17 to 26, toys and dvd. i believe it was about 87% support government intervention and health care and also higher taxation, if necessary. >> host: how to get involved with this organization? is that i did work at the leadership council for rye, which is the most diverse and human rights coalition.
i focus on civil rights legislation at the federal level. i wanted to kind of direct my focus on little more toward young people specifically. so campus progress had reached out to me to speak at several events, and when i came and i saw the energy of young people that were working with it, i said this is where the next generation is, my generation. and it's important to give us the tools and resources to make that change happen. so i was intrigued. >> host: where did you go to school and when did you get involved in politics? >> guest: i would to school at the university of maryland college park, and i got involved in politics at a little bit after graduation. there were issues that impacted me as an undergraduate student, but i didn't necessarily realize the connection between those and kind of policies specifically at a natural level. for example the issue of college affordability. i realized it was unaffordable. it was very difficult to be able to pay for a college education, but didn't realize the connection between that and federal policy until i graduated. began working at the leadership conference and seeing the connection between things in my
daily life needed and the rule of government and that. >> host: were you political earlier before college and where did you grow up? >> guest: i grew up here in the washington, d.c., area, born in district, live in maryland. and my parents were both prime ministers and pastors. so i was in mighty, absolutely but not necessarily political. i realized there was a role that i as a citizen was supposed to play in bettering my community, growing my primary avenue was a. i was in african-american studies and public policy major in college. and at that time i kind of made the connection there are other ways also to benefit my community. >> host: you currently have quite an agenda of events going on here in washington. your annual meeting is that it ended actually yesterday. >> host: and you've got nancy pelosi and bill clinton to speak. >> guest: we did. . . to -- have had a
passion for young people. ben jones, a special advisor to the president on the green jobse saw and if we're going to lay out this progressive the nation's leading thinkers and social scientists and politicians in developing a progressive agenda young people were critical part of that. >> host: is in response to or counter to like a young americans for freedom which has
been around for a while? >> guest: they have been around for a while and i wouldn't necessarily say it is in response to, it is similar in the idea that we just like in service thing that young people have an incredible energy and passion but i do think and i'm a little biased but we did better in the sense that we are not just developing leaders for the next generation. we are encouraging young people to get out now and be active and they are. >> host: erica williams is stepping in director for campus progress, 25 and under only. first call for her comes from jefferson, iowa, ted a democrat. >> caller: first of all, thank you c-span for taking my call. i realize that there aren't very many people my age that really listen to c-span on a regular basis. >> host: how old are you? >> caller: 24. >> guest: good for you. >> caller: but my question is, of course, i live in a rural
area. what have you seen this campus partners campaign trying to come to rural areas? i have seen the progressive movement become very active in a live in more urban areas and areas that tend to attract more progressive thinking people anyway, but i see especially in my area a great divide between urban versus rural. what is the progressive movement trying to do to come into rural areas and trying to educate and/or due out reach into my area? i will listen to your answer, thank you. >> guest: a great question here and that is actually something we've made a concerted effort to do for the very beginning since 2005, in fact, are beginning chapters were targeted in rural areas and predominantly conservative campus is because we found not only is there a great need for this type of resources and support and exposure we provide
but also the students and young people in the areas soak up the information and are some of our strongest advocates so we have chapter is -- is egon? , sure exactly what rural areas and i be able to tell him what we have in his area but that is something we've made a conscious effort to do and go into those areas and develop leaders. >> host: viggo to campus progress.org. >> guest: if he goes there he can e-mail us at organize at campus progress.org and directed to the nearest student partner, campus and representative or anything in the region. >> host: is it only on college campuses? >> guest: primarily college campuses, and davis campus progress but we support young people, college-age have around 17 where 25, the millennial generation. so we did initially start off focusing primarily on college campuses but are expanding because that is not just on
college campuses. >> host: kurt the viking tweets -- can the guest please speak to the economic incentives a progressive policy? >> guest: i wish i had some clarification when he said the economic incentives. i can talk about our economic policy platform right now and i'm sure it will have on that a little bit. right now we are launching a campaign for economic opportunity, this idea that young people in this crisis by not in this particular economic crisis as a generation are facing some unique economic challenges. looking at colleges like the rising cost of college and education, health care, even looking at transitioning to a green economy. young progressives especially believe there needs to be a conscious bold and strong dramatic assessment and these core areas, education, health care and clean energy, in order to ensure our economic future so we do see these things as connected and linked so when we talk about the economy we are
talking about these issues. >> host: gilbert, arizona, republican. you're honor with erica williams. >> caller: how are you doing today? >> guest: good, how are you? >> caller: i'm doing great. a couple of questions -- first obviously about the education movement and all of the grand hall and everything that is going on, i just got into college not too long ago. i am going to criminal-justice and almost half my law degree, i am a few years into the deal. but as easy as the government is handing out money, you know how for online education, everywhere you look to go to yah hoo, aol, you go here and there, it is this online degree or that
online degree and they are willing to hand out this money, but for the last four years i have had this impacted wisdom that has been impacted the mouth --. >> host: we are going to leave david h. gilbert for right now and going to move on to nicholas m. jackson new jersey democrat. >> caller: good morning. i just wanted to know what you are doing to organize students if your organization has an ultimate goal to be achieved at this current moment? and what can a working student by myself who doesn't have a lot of time due to benefit your program? >> host: where do you go to school? >> caller: and kim is a college -- a community college. >> guest: there are a couple questions they're so the first generally speaking what are we
doing to organize students and what we're doing is supporting the work faster than some young people are doing on our campuses so campus progress offers organizing grants of progress a partnership so agile money, resources and training for young people who have traded issues and campaign ideas for their campus and to many soviet the national level are working on issues such as health care and climate change and college affordability we support young people working on any and almost every progress of the issue locally so that ranges from if you're working on genocide in darfur, working on hiv/aids awareness, working on local health care, working on issues that impact your campus in changing student government -- we believe there is a value in and people just getting out there and making change happen in whenever when they see fit so specifically in terms of community college and what you can do you can do the same thing that all other students can do in the difference is how. the difference is are you starting in student organization or you and your part-time work
joining another organization or are you simply making calls in your local representatives, making la base locally. if you check out campus progress accord with other are so many resources there to support whatever it is you want to do in your area to make change happen and that is our principle and philosophy. >> host: when you say you're organizing students, what kind of activities when they do? >> guest: we start and a very basic level with coordinating events, we found that coordinating events that talk about progressive policy issues and get dialogue going is a first up so we bring speakers to local campuses to talk about progressive policy areas so just an event. the second is rallies, protests, marches, campaigns that are directed at putting pressure on local congress people, representatives on issue areas. also supports young journalists so supporting young journalists
who in the mainstream publication doesn't represent my viewpoints and doesn't cover issues i want we give grants to student publications as well and so it is about taking the skills and resources you have, coming to campus progress and telling us here's what i can do in the areas of concern and we can help pull it together and help you out to reach people regionally and connecting people simic their movements stronger. >> host: chris tweens, how is the use progressive movement different from standard left leading student organizations such as college democrats? >> guest: i would say we are nonpartisan and that's important and i know people say you are progressive and that means democrat -- is not the same thing because our role is not to support or strengthen a particular party, it is to put out a vision for america and whenever party lines that go back and politicians lined up for that that is what we support. we challenge the status quo and democrats all the time and say you are not going far enough, you're not pushing as far enough
and as the difference that we have a really strong position that doesn't line up with the party. >> host: is president of, and progress of? >> guest: we think he is however we think he could do even more apparent in a billion people voting in record numbers clearly overwhelming for president obama articulated a vision of young progressives and the millennium generation however, that doesn't mean that everything he does we love and doesn't mean everything he does we're satisfied with. that is the theme of our conference, we have certain young people coming to washington to say good job but we need more. we need you to be stronger and even more progress of. >> host: david in lexington, kentucky, republican. you're on with erica williams of campus progress. >> caller: thank you, for taking my call. i wanted to go back over what idiots she thinks progressives maine. all political philosophies have to do what the roles of government is and you talk about
the good and all of that but who decides what the public good is and how far should they be able to go to implement that as far as dealing coming insulating and imprisoning, killing and so forth? where is a limit? >> host: what to do in lexington? >> caller: i am in a painting company coverage started a year ago. >> host: how old are you? >> caller: 26 next week. >> guest: a lot of young callers, i love it. thank you, it's a great challenging question. i know of there's a clear-cut answer as to how far should we go or who determines the common good but i think when you look and statistics, you look at where our nation is in terms of health care, the disparity is better there, the disparities of education -- the issue we define as common good are what we have some nations set up their goals and priorities and set up their values. we say that the american dream is attainable. we believe government has a role
in helping americans achieve those goals and achieve those visions and i think we do so and believe that a little bit more strongly -- stronger conservatives to appear and i don't believe we believe in the values or the goals any differently but i do think there is a dramatic increase in the way young progress of some believe the government should be involved in a two-minute calls. >> host: las vegas, democrat. >> caller: hi, how are you doing miss williams? >> guest: how are you? >> caller: great. i do remember you from black state of the union. i do remember you on that point, but i did not understand what you're representing at that time but i'm getting of little bit more information now. but my whole thing was wanting to know, ivan las vegas of course, and i'm a diverse city. how wanted to know how can i be introduced into this one and what can i start to do to put my
ideas out? i do have a lot of ideas, and to see a lot of things going on, i watch c-span a lot, watch this, so i keep up with a lot of politics the lot. i see some of the things that are going on especially some of the politicians, of course,, senator john ensign going through his thing here. so i want to offer some of my own idea as big as i want to leave myself into politics, i am only 24 years old and so i am trying to open the door way. seeing you a woman of color, that has inspired me so i want to know what to do. >> host: two questions for you. in what do you do in the las vegas? and why are you a democrat or progressive or, however, identify yourself? >> guest: . >> caller: number one i am a full-time cashier at a store and i am going back to school for my
associate's degree in i.t.. and my second is i am considered a democrat but lately i have been pretty independent because it doesn't seem -- i don't like to be in the fight of the red and blue. and accepted a sixth man's role where he could come off the bench as an explosive scorer, maybe get some 15 to 18 points per game in 25 minutes, then many contenders would have been offering him contracts to come and play for them as a sixth man off the bench. but he obviously didn't like playing that role in detroit and made a big stink and messed up that locker room to a degree, so now teams aren't interested in him. that's why the good teams don't want to bring him aboard. >> so it sounds like it's more about his attitude rather than what he can still bring to the table as a basketball player. >> everybody knows he can still play. he's definitely good enough to start on most teams in the nba,
but how much is he going to help you win? that's the big question that teams have. most teams don't think he's going to help you win at all, especially if you are already a good team. so look at detroit. detroit was a good team. it wasn't all allen iverson's fault. >> right. >> it was a lot of different players involved and coach michael curry, but iverson certainly did not behave correctly in that situation when he refused to come off the bench and after only three games as a reserve said he'd rather retire than come off the bench. >> i didn't mean any disrespect when i said good team memphis or the miami heat. >> you're speaking the truth. miami's mediocre. >> i got you. >> you have to be liberal with the word good to include some of these teams. but memphis has a bright future, i'll say that. >> they do. what's the latest in the t-wolves coaching situation? >> this is a strange search. new g.m. david kahn has already talked to four assistants, one of them monty williams in portland.
he's also going to talk with houston's elston turner, who is an assistant, brian shaw, kurt rambis, assistant in los angeles, tom thibodeau in boston. he's planning on talking to as many as eight to ten more people over the next two weeks. he's going to take his time. clearly mark jackson is probably the biggest name that you're hearing associated with this job. it's going to be a first-year coach most likely because the timberwolves don't want to pay anything. they're going to pay less than $2 million a year some they're not getting an established coach. so most people think mark jackson is the front-runner, but several assistants around the nba are talking to g.m. david kahn on it. >> it would be great the see mark jackson get his chance as a coach in the nba if he makes it. as all, chris broussard a very busy man, all over the airwaves on espn networks today. thanks for hanging out with us on espnews right now. >> all right, mike. >> from the nba to major league
baseball, and we have breaking news here on espnews. guess what, it involves the new york mets. >> a smile on your face. >> that's right. well, not really because i like this guy, but let's not make it about me. >> sorry. >> later we will. the mets and braves of all teams to pull off a deal, they pulled off a deal. they have swapped outfielders. that's right, the mets sending ryan church to atlanta in exchange for jeff francoeur. church as met fans know has been in jerry manuel's doghouse more often than not. he was hitting .280, but he had just two homers and 22 r.b.i.s. francoeur hitting .250, he's got a bit more power, five homers and he's got plenty more clutch hits. he's got 35 r.b.i.s. church for francoeur, deal done. >> pedro martinez is a former met. could be philadelphia philly before the end of this weekend. pitched well.
breaking news i broke moments -- i didn't break it, but i announced it moments ago. guys like you break these kind of things. the mets trading ryan church to atlanta for jeff francoeur in a swap of outfielders. from the mets' side first, ryan church never been liked by jerry manuel, has a tough history with this new york mets organization, the way he was treated with the post-concussion, this whole kind of thing, and they get rid of ryan church for jeff francoeur. what is your reaction to this move? >> well, linda, i'm really interested in the jeff francoeur end because here's a guy who two years ago you couldn't have been able to get near in a trade, and now his stock has fallen so much the braves were lucky to get ryan church for him. the thing i find fascinating is, you know, i like jeff francoeur. he's a great kid. he's a great athlete, and he certainly tries hard. he plays as hard as you can, but he's a kid who, you know, he felt so much pressure playing in his home town in atlanta, they felt like, look, we're going to have to move him out of here.
moving him to new york is probably not the best way the reduce the pressure on him. >> you know what, jerry, that's a great point you bring up, but after listening to you, mets' fans actually should be ecstatic. this is nothing against ryan church. why in because something has to happen in that clubhouse. so it will be a combination of jeff francoeur, that young spirit, trying to prove the braves wrong and also, come on, mets's fans will welcome him with open arms thinking it's a breath of fresh air, and you know what else will be a advantage, helping out a guy like david wright who needs maybe a wing man here to get the fire going on this downtrodden team. >> francoeur is an upbeat guy. i know people poo-poo, that but he's a guy when you walk into the clubhouse, he's always... it's been a rough year for him, but i hit the -- i think it's one of those change of scenery trades. get him out of here. maybe he'll hit better in new york. he still has some fundamental
things, swinging at pitches out of the strike zone early in the could and not getting on base. he has a lot of issues. he has had a big game were to lately. who knows. maybe the hitting lessons he took in the off season he can go back to him at the all-star break and get a refresher course. >> good instructor to have, no question. let's move on to the phillies, of course. the audition, the simulated game, another one, for pedro martinez for the phillies. what do you know? what's the latest? >> well, he did throw today. he threw three innings apparently against dominican summer league kids, a bunch of young kids. he threw three shutout innings, gave up three hits and struck out three. there were reports that ruben amaro, the phillies' gm was there, which is apparently incorrect. i think it can only help his cause. they wanted him to throw again. i don't know how much better you can do than three shutout innings. what his stuff looked like and how intrigued they are i don't know, but it's like a job interview.
if you ask somebody back for a second interview, you're certainly showing more of a commitment. whether it's going to get done the next day twoor i'm not sure, but the process certainly moves along another step today. >> gut feeling, jerry? will he be in a phillies' uniform? >> you know, i have to think he will. they just... they're pretty short and, you know, jamie moyer, a guy who has been in the rotation is another guy who is starting to become a concern, has not pitched well. he's 46 years old. they've lost myers to injury. you know, i think they need some fortification and they feel like pedro's a guy, you know, who even though his velocity is down and he's not the same pedro, he's wiley enough to give you a lift. look, the phillies have sold a lot of tickets this year. the tv revenues are good and they have sold out a lot of game, so they have a little bit of extra money to play with and they need pitching. >> speaking of pitching, the best out there in the american league is roy halladay. most experts are saying he will be traded by july 31st.
what do you think? >> well, the momentum certainly seems to be going in that direction. i did hear today, you know, since this became public that j.p. ricciardi was going to listen, he's gotten calls from between ten and 12 teams, and some of the teams i think haven't even been publicize. i'm not even sure who they all are. it will take a little while because there will probably be minor league talent involved here, and i think the jays will be sending scouts all over the place to look at some of these kids in the minor leagues, the kyle drabecks and sol of these kids. but the price is going to be very high, and they've made it clear that if we don't get what we want, we're in the just going to give him away. they'll have to be very comfortable with the package that they receive in return. >> okay, jerry, 'tis the season, plenty of trade rumors out there right about now. what's on your radar? >> well, the pirates seem to be in the middle of a lot of things. they've been in the middle of a lot of things. freddie sanchez is a guy who is definitely getting some interest. a lot of people like him.
he's a good defender. he's an all-star.ern't he's a .300 hitter.arms jgot problem is he has an option that kicks in if he gets to 600 plate appearances for $8 million. that's a little bit high for some people's taste, but i still think there is a chance they could move him. they're also trying the move adam laroche and jack wilson, but much less interest in those guys. >> wow, it's sad. i tell you, such a great wall park, but the team is being dismantled once again. jerry crasnick, always a pleasure. thanks. >> thanks, linda. >> after 24 days in prison, donte stallworth is a free man. we'll give you the details on we'll give you the details on the top of the show. you do get a hint of drinkability right away. does my pen have write-ability? come on people, we gotta focus. we're not leaving until we've met our budget. we need ideas. we could cut back on marketing. we could eliminate bonuses.
>> glad you found espnews in h.d. we're always helping do you stay current on news, scores and highlights. that is mike hill. i'm linda cohn. "aircheck" coming up. >> we love "aircheck." we got some good topics today, too. we start off with some baseballd the cardinals and cubs, longtime rivals in a tight n.l. central race.. that's lou piniella.day lou, his team down 3-0. that's big lee.
derrek lee, three-run shotfo >> >> jim: coming up on o's orioles xtra pre-game show, cesar izturis is back with the orioles. the bylaw jays are in town for the first of three to close out the first half. greg zaun renewing akuwaitances with his former teamates and kevin millar back against the birds. it's the orioles and blue jays and it's o's o's xtra right now. and we begin tonight with news of the day as manager dave trembley has been suspend by major league baseball for two games. he will serve that suspension
tonight and tomorrow night. dave joust will act as manager for the next two days. dave can be on the field before the game and speak after the game but he cannot be in the dugout in the clubhouse during the game for the argument on tuesday night in seattle with the crew chief tom hallion on a play involving nolan reimold. jim hunter with rick dempsey on a beautiful night for baseball here at camden yards, maybe a tad breezy. i don't know if the pitchers are going to like that, but a tad breezy. orioles coming off winning back- to-back games in seattle. a real uplifting way to end the road trip. now they have to somehow translate that against the blue jays. >> rick: nothing like coming from behind to win the game.
you have to continue that momentum once you get back at home. the other we wills are the best team in the american league at hitting at home. they have to continue that hit, put a lot of runs on the board. give the pitchers an opportunity to have a little breathing room. berken is out. he is struggling to win ball games. help him out as best you can on defense. try to evaluate some of the weaknesses that you had in that first half of the season and let's get off to a real good start you have these three games and you have to kick them while they are down. you have to go for the jugular against a team that's struggling like the blue jays are right now. the orioles are capable of doing that. they can't make the little mistakes that they have been making that cost them winning streaks. they have to get on a good long winning streak. good thing that the blue jays are in town because that's the next team in line. take it one game at a time and try to overtake them. >> jim: rick talked about evaluating what theorioles have and what they need and what
they don't have. and andy mcphail is with us. this week, espn.com highlighted your three outfielder, the young guns in the outif i had. that's a sign of real success and progress when other people are beginning to notice your players and beginning to speak favorably about them. >> that's always a plus. we several appreciate that. you know, as you can imagine, we are excited about our young outfield, nolan reimold has done a nice job since coming on, mike markakis has been great since coming up and adam jones is our all-star representative. we are pleased with the way they have come along. they are young, all have a chance of performing. we have a young extra outfielder in felix pie who has been hitting over .300 since his tough start in may and. >> , we have luke scott who is on base for a 34-homerun season who is doing the lion's share of our dh'ing and also can play
left field for us when the circumstances require. >> rick: andy, matt has lived up to his billing so far this season. you have to be happy with a lot of things that you see with him but he has shown some things that he needs to work on at the same time. what's your evaluation of him so far? >> i think he is pretty much what we thought he would be. there are a few things he needs to work on defensively but he is showing us all the skills that have been much bally hood over his career. he picked it up offensively. we expected and anticipated he was going to struggle a little bit initially but he has overcome that with the bat and is making good progress. there are certain adjustments you need to get and you can only do those at the major league level. we are satisfied with his progress to this point into a lot of young guys up here that you brought up from the minor leagues are starting to make their mark at the major league level but you are the evaluator. what kind of marks are they making with you? >> i'm pleased. i'm pleased with not only the statistics of their performance but also how their demeanor is,
how they conduct themselves. for the most part, if not 100%, they are prepared. when they come up here, they have not shown any signs of fear. they are making the adjustments. i'm very pleased with how they are coming, you know. when you consider most of our rotation was at bowie just 20 minutes south of us, now they are up here in the american league east competing, i think you have to very much appreciate what they have done, particularly brad bergesen, i think, has done even a lot more than we had any right to expect and a couple of his wins have gotten away from us. but he has really done a terrific job. as has david hernandez and david berken. they are giving us everything we have a right to expect and more. >> jim: andy, in the first offseason here, you pulled off the two biggest trades and they have become the envy of other general managers in baseball when you have 10 players for two. here are the numbers of the players currently with the orioles and bedard with seattle and tejada with houston.
can, tejada on the national league all-star but bedard becomes a free agent. you can see the pro ducks and depth. it's three weeks to the trading deadline. who knows will come your way. these trades were nady in the offseason but one thing we learned about you, you are not afraid to pull the trigger and, if you're going to get to the next level, you have to give up talent to get talent back. >> we a simple formula back in the offseason. we were willing to make other teams better in the near future if they make us better in the long run. in our case, the future has come up faster than we expected. we know what bedard can do when he is healthy and tejada is going to the all-star. we can have a wave of talent coming together and compete and contend in the american league east as opposed to just sort of try to slide by.
we'll valuate everything on a vein basis, whether we think it makes sense for us or not. right now, we have the enviable position of having a lot of clubs that are legitimately in it. i'm sure they're going to take all the time they can to better ascertain whether they are really in a position where it makes sense for them to give up good young talent to try to enhance their chances of winning now. >> jim: probably the best part of this is that you have, without a doubt, legitimately good talent stacked up at every minor league level. the lower guys are a few more years away but you have legitimate talent and that was not the case not that many years ago. >> we have been very fortunate. our nine nor league players have performed at an extraordinarily good rate. this year it's been pretty uniform that our guys, if they are healthy, they have performed at a very good level which i'm pleased with but we can't expect that all the time. there are going to be years when some of our guys are well thought of and rightfully so and struggled. we are having one of those
summers where it be marietta or till mapp, they all seem to be doing very well at the higher levels. bryan snyder has already been promoted to aaa based on what he accomplished in bowie. we are having a pretty good year in the minor leagues. these kids are prepared to compete, not afraid and they have been put under pretty trying cir circumstances. >> jim: andy, we appreciate the visit. continued success as the trade deadline apreaches, it's getting exciting around here with the talent level of these young players. thanks for joining us. >> happy to do it, james. >> jim: it is game 1 of the three-game series against the blue jays to close out the first half. stay with us. the young guns are part of it and we'll come back and break them down when we come back. fios guy! where ya headed?
. wednesday afternoon in seattle, ty wigginton came through. what an adjustment by a veteran within a game. >> rick: he started the game off with two walks and hit into two double plays. all he had to do was get good contact, get those guys in right there and the orioles had a chance to win this ballgame. he comes up with a big hit up the middle and a couple of rbis and that's what helped the orioles win this game 5-32. >> jim: orioles win the final 2 to get the final 2 out of 3. following the game, the orioles talk about the big come-from- behind win. >> it's a good feeling to go home with a win and a series win. you know, you start off the trip 3-4 and it's good to get the last two going home. hopefully we can do something against toronto and, you know, get our hot streak going at the break. >> i definitely didn't have my best command of my offspeed pitches. i gave up three quick runs and
just is have to compete after you fall down early. have to give your team a chance to win. >> jim: the orioles back home after a long flight and a day off yesterday and the first of three tonight against the toronto blue jays. friendly face back at shortstop. let's get more across the field and welcome amber. >> amber: jim, cesar izturis was welcome back and so the oriole has to get creative. they decided to send a starter down to aaa. that is david hernandez. he was the last start tore make a start and, so, it really won't affect anything during the all-star break and it's not because of his numbers. obviously, this is not a demotion. it's just a numbers game. he has a 2-2 record with a 3.94 e.r.a. opponents hitting .292 against him. he has held his own in the six
starts here in the big leagues. he will make a start in bowie on july 13th and then he will be back up with the big club on july 20th to make a start against the yankees in new york. now, as i said, the good news is, though, that cesar is back. i know the orioles are happy to have him up the middle. i spoke to him about his rehab assignment. i asked him about how he was feeling and how it went. >> definitely. i feel good, i feel 1100%, you know, first game. you know, you go to rehab. i play in the hole, stole a base. got in the hole. >> amber: the team has had its struggles at times. does it hurt when you want to get in there and play but you know physically, you are too weak. >> it's tough watching on the bench and tv. but, you know, that's part of
the game, you know. now, you just focus in the second half and be ready to win games. that's the bottom line. >> amber: so cesar izturis will get his first start in a month. he will not play tomorrow and play again sunday and we all go into the all-star break. dave trembley said that's because cesar will not play every day when he comes back. he wants him to get acclimated. he is coming back from a serious injury. and he said that robert andino has earned the right to more playing time. he did a great job while cesar was out and we will see him in the line-up every once in a while while cesar is out. >> jim: thank you very much. now cesar izturis is back in the line-up. as we talked to andy mcphail about building the team, look at the turnover in the starting pitch. the orioles now have the third youngest rotation. only observing lands and tampa bay is younger. when you consider that rich hill is 29 and jeremy guthrie
is 30, that inflates it a little bit but three rookies are in the orioles starting rotation and at best of that group is possibly brad bergesen because, at this point, he has been the most consistent. >> he has become very accustomed to doing this. he already showed that he is establishing him self as one of the best pitchers not only in the american league but all of baseball. he has one of the best sinkers i have seen come to the big league since orel hershiser. he has a good repertoire; not afraid to throw any of them even if he is mind the count. that makes him better because no hitter will sit on the fastball. even if he does, he has good one that's not easy to hit. >> jim: in his last start against anaheim, he didn't have his best stuff but even so, he still kept the orioles in the
game. >> rick: it was a nice long stretch where he got pitching hot and went through seven, eight ball games where he gave the club a big opportunity to win. even then, he didn't start off that game up in seattle very well in that 1st inning, he came back with five very strong innings where he went back to taking a little bit more off his fastball, kept the team in it. he broke down a little bit later on, you know, but it's understandable. i'll take seven out of eight starts any day as good as that young man has been throwing. >> jim: tonight here, opening game of the three-game series with the toronto blue jays. the orioles trying to surge to the blue jays in the american league east. is tender, juicy,ken and lightly breaded. the sauce is a mouthwatering blend of sweet & spicy. every bite delivers a kick of asian chilies, real red pepper flakes, and a hint of garlic. it's about as far as it gets from fast food. and that's why you get it at wendy's. female announcer: introducing sweet & spicy asian chicken.
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night for baseball here at oriole park at camden yard. we have a slight comfortable breeze, 43% humidity. partly cloudy on the night. that's the forecast. it is a lovely night for baseball. if you are in the area, come on down and join us. don't forget it is fireworks night here tonight following the game at camden yards. it's the first of three against the toronto blue jays. here is the jays' starting line- up, scutaro, hill, adam lind up top. with scutaro with a 25-game hitting streak. that is the longest hitting streak of his career. raul chavez, one-time oriole will catch and bat 9th. how about aaron hill at second base. here is a guy who burst on the scene and has become a star. >> rick: he has established himself as one of the top offensive players in the game. he is already some of the league leaders with 100 hits.
he has come on offensively and already established himself as one of the best defensive second basemen in the game. aaron hill continues to put up big numbers for the blue jays. >> jim: aaron hill has more hits in the american league than any other player not named ichiro suzuki. only ichiro suzuki has more hits. here is the orioles line-up. huff left the other day when he was injured running the bases. duke blue devils brings a nin- game hitting streak into the game. he has three homers and 12 rbis over the nine fames. luke scott has minimal eyesed the cold spots and maximized the hot spots. >> rick: luke has been a streaky player but tonight this season, he has proven everybody
wrong. he is 12 for 33 right now, hitting at a .364 clip. not only does he lead the team in homeruns, but he hasey clipsed the number of homeruns he has hit last year. luke scott is carrying his load at dh. >> jim: to close out the first half before the all-star break, here is the pitching match-up, university of maryland product, matt cecil against the orioles. how about that? sub is sending a left hander against the orioles. hey mom i need some minutes.
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school in baltimore. dave and christina and nick stressed the pops of education. the orioles reach in the community with dave trembley, nick markakis and christina markakis. it is game 1 of the three-game series against the blue jays. on the mound is jason berken. he has not won a game since his major league debut, coincidentally, against the blue jays. manager dave trembley what asked what berken needs to do to get a little more consistency on the mound. >> with jason, it's -- umm -- it's his delivery and it's not trying to overthrow your breaking ball. he throws too hard, it really does not do much of anything for him. don't try to throw your breaking ball so hard and, you know, him like everybody he is, try to keep your pitches down early in the game. keep them down. but i would say it's an important start for him
because, you know, he'd like to end this part of the season on a positive note. >> jim: so jason berken on the mound. what's the rick dempsey scouting report on berken into we'd like to get back to that first start. toronto is the one and only. not that's the team he likes the most. right now in the major league career, that's the only team he has beat so far. only two earned runs in his first outing, gave up 7 hits and that was his only win. he loves his team right now he is on the vernal and what i think a lot of people didn't see in his last outing, although he did not get the win in his last outing, i loved what i saw because he was missing low in the strike zone instead of up in the strike zone. that shows me he is making the kind of adjustments that he made. it would not be surprising to me if he had the breakout game tonight ant best so far this season. >> jim: on the other side, a left hander going against the oriole, brett cecil, the young man out of the university of maryland. >> rick: this a great match up
because statistically, they are clones of one another. both of them, 7 major league starts. the other one 8 major league starts. they both have a 6.2 e.r.a., same amount of innings pitched, sam amount of hit, within one of homeruns. it's amazing as you go down the line and they match up statistically. he has the same trouble that berken has. he is high in the zone most of the time and that's when he gets hurt. when he stays down in the zone, both of these young men have pretty good games. >> jim: what is the rick dempsey key to the game tonight. >> rick: the key to the game, don't go to the well. vernon wells with that career batting average at .314. he feels comfortable hitting in both ballparks. this is his highest homerun output against any teams, 27 homeruns and 91 rbis against the orioles. if we stop vernon wells, we have a real good chance of beating the jays tonight. >> jim: just to renew our
competition tonight, you are up 1-0 on me. who is your player to watch? into i have a good feeling about melvin mora. he has not hit a homerun in 49 games. 50 is going to be the number tonight. i got to call a melvin mora homerun tonight and we all know how melvin hits in the second half of the season. he is poised and ready to go, jimmy. who is your pick for the night. >> jim: one of those great minds think alike. my player to watch is melvin mora. >> rick: no way. >> jim: he has hit in the last two games on the road trip. i like the way the ball jumped off his bat the last couple of games in seattle. like you, i agree he is due for one of those breakout games. it's been a long time, since may 7th since he hit a homerun. so neither of us will win tonight. it's going to be a push. the orioles and blue jays. stay tuned. gary thorn and jim palmer next. they have the play by play. if, for some reap, you have to leave the television, turn on your radio, 105.7. joanne gel with the call
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